Literature serach for the Soviet Орион (созвездие) (Orionski) program
Derek Lyons wrote:
> "bombardmentforce" wrote:
>
> >I wouldn't have the confidence to debate the Soviet Orion program
> >without some documents at hand, have you located anything better?
>
> I don't need to locate anything better. The evidence you've produced
> to date fail to support your claim - there's no need for me to
> disprove it when you have failed to prove it.
>
> D.
> --
Here is the literature related to the critical July 10,1961 "Tsar Bomba" meeting I've found so far...
Sakharov Memoirs ISBN#0394537408
index space pgs 147, 149, 156, 177, 181, 581
215-216
149:1960-61:"laser to ignite..pellets...thermonuclear impulse
propulsion engines for spacecraft..."
215: "I went on to describe some of my department's more exotic
projects, such as the use of nuclear explosions to power spacecraft
and other "science fiction" schemes. (I have learned from Freeman
Dyson's Disturbing the Universe that in 1958 he too began studying
the feasibility of a nuclear spaceship in the American Orion Project.)
221:"I was concerned that the military couldn't use it without an
effective carrier (a bomber would be to easy to shoot down). I
dreamed up the idea of a giant torpedo, launched form a submarine and
fitted with an atomic powered jet engine that would convert water to
steam."
Project Orion ISBN#0805059857
266:"I went on to describe some of my department's more exotic
projects, such as the use of nuclear explosions to power spacecraft
and other "science fiction" schemes".
267:"Vladimir Shmelev... monitored what the Orion group was up to..."
Khrushchev remembers. #0316831417 - No obvious reference.
With an introd., commentary, and notes by Edward Crankshaw. Translated and edited by Strobe Talbott.
by Khrushchev, Nikita Sergeevich, 1894-1971.
Boston, Little, Brown [c1970]
38 other books here
Posting at testpilot.ru
Babelfish translated
Another version
Author Александр Железняков
"I will say that this idea was also pleased to Khrushchev."
"In the lower part of the ship had to be fastened the screen with a diameter of 15-25 m, in focus of which had to "thunder" the nuclear explosions."- Screen not copied from the American program.
"In the second place, the "starting" of nuclear engine far from the equatorial plane out of the zone of the so-called trapping region of geomagnetic field made it possible to avoid the appearance of artificial radiation belts."
"For example, "PK -3000" ("the manned complex" with a starting mass of 3000 t) had the height of approximately 60 m, and "PK -5000" ("the manned complex" with a starting mass of 5000 t) - less than 75 m. the payload, concluded in orbit, in these versions it was 800 and 1300 t respectively." Lower ISP than Taylor?
Other web pages
> "bombardmentforce"
>
> >I wouldn't have the confidence to debate the Soviet Orion program
> >without some documents at hand, have you located anything better?
>
> I don't need to locate anything better. The evidence you've produced
> to date fail to support your claim - there's no need for me to
> disprove it when you have failed to prove it.
>
> D.
> --
Here is the literature related to the critical July 10,1961 "Tsar Bomba" meeting I've found so far...
Sakharov Memoirs ISBN#0394537408
index space pgs 147, 149, 156, 177, 181, 581
215-216
149:1960-61:"laser to ignite..pellets...thermonuclear impulse
propulsion engines for spacecraft..."
215: "I went on to describe some of my department's more exotic
projects, such as the use of nuclear explosions to power spacecraft
and other "science fiction" schemes. (I have learned from Freeman
Dyson's Disturbing the Universe that in 1958 he too began studying
the feasibility of a nuclear spaceship in the American Orion Project.)
221:"I was concerned that the military couldn't use it without an
effective carrier (a bomber would be to easy to shoot down). I
dreamed up the idea of a giant torpedo, launched form a submarine and
fitted with an atomic powered jet engine that would convert water to
steam."
Project Orion ISBN#0805059857
266:"I went on to describe some of my department's more exotic
projects, such as the use of nuclear explosions to power spacecraft
and other "science fiction" schemes".
267:"Vladimir Shmelev... monitored what the Orion group was up to..."
Khrushchev remembers. #0316831417 - No obvious reference.
With an introd., commentary, and notes by Edward Crankshaw. Translated and edited by Strobe Talbott.
by Khrushchev, Nikita Sergeevich, 1894-1971.
Boston, Little, Brown [c1970]
38 other books here
Posting at testpilot.ru
Babelfish translated
Another version
Author Александр Железняков
"I will say that this idea was also pleased to Khrushchev."
"In the lower part of the ship had to be fastened the screen with a diameter of 15-25 m, in focus of which had to "thunder" the nuclear explosions."- Screen not copied from the American program.
"In the second place, the "starting" of nuclear engine far from the equatorial plane out of the zone of the so-called trapping region of geomagnetic field made it possible to avoid the appearance of artificial radiation belts."
"For example, "PK -3000" ("the manned complex" with a starting mass of 3000 t) had the height of approximately 60 m, and "PK -5000" ("the manned complex" with a starting mass of 5000 t) - less than 75 m. the payload, concluded in orbit, in these versions it was 800 and 1300 t respectively." Lower ISP than Taylor?
Other web pages
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